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Postby Hai » Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:21 pm

Post insightful/interesting quotes of artists or teachers here.

"But constant practice also means little unless you keep adding your working knowledge. Doing the same thing over and over without acquiring new facts between efforts also accomplishes very little."- Loomis
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Postby chazillah » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:00 pm

'Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill.'
Cicero

"There is no secret to drawing. The more you do it, the better you'll get. It's all about mileage. A lot of people try to look for shortcuts, but there aren't any. Just bite the bullet and do the work. There is no easy path."
Feng Zhu

“To do anything successfully you must apply three basic elements: first, you must have a plan of attack or approach; second, you need the knowledge to put that plan into affect; and third, you must have the tenacity to carry it through to completion.”
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Postby Joelhladky. » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:43 pm

Fear is the enemy of Imagination - Android Jones
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Postby Geebler » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:50 pm

“Draw, Antonio; draw, Antonio; draw and don’t waste time.” Michelangelo Buonarroti
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Postby Hai » Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:37 pm

“Generally speaking, remember that you can only attend to one edge of the touch that you are making. If you try and paint a touch that needs variety on both its edges, and you try and get the variety on both sides at the same time, you will fail to get either right. ”-Harold Speed
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Postby Hai » Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:46 pm

Harold Speed quotes incoming(about perfectly rendered drawings):
"I am told that if you construct a perfectly fitted engine- the piston fitting the cylinder with absolute accuracy and the axles their sockets with no space between- it will not work, but be a lifeless mass of iron. There must be enough play between the vital parts ti allow of such movements"
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Re: Helpful Quotes Thread

Postby ubem » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:02 am

I've collected a whole (ever)notebook of quotes pertaining to art. Here's a few rather long ones that I'd like to add. Sorry for the length!


“It is a mistake to think that the practice of my art has become easy to me. I assure you, dear friend, no one has given so much care to the study of composition as I. There is scarcely a famous master in music whose works I have not frequently and diligently studied.”
-Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart


(Interview with Craig Mullins)

...“To get really, really good at something you have to do that thing to the exclusion of all else. The result of this is that a commercial artist might work in one medium, one style, one subject, and do that tens of thousands of times. The best part of this is that they get scarily good at it, and it becomes almost like a parlour trick. Car designers are a great example of this. Their sketches are amazing, and that quality is the result of endless narrow repetition. Most illustrators and concept artists that I’ve seen have this pressure of facility placed on them – it’s a requirement for the job. If you think about it, it’s really the opposite of the exploration that can be so wonderful in art.”
...As the interview draws to a close, he digresses a little into how developing artists can start to build a career like his. “Focus your attention on limiting distractions,” he begins. “Artists have the curse and blessing of doing something fun for a living. It’s a blessing because it’s fun, but it’s a curse in that being fun, a whole lot of people spend a lot of time doing it, and that’s the key ingredient to doing something well.”

He concludes, “Never give up. Realise that what you like now isn’t going to be what you like in five years. Knowing this, it actually allows you to grow. The idea that you know a truth is an illusion, and you have to know it’s an illusion… or you’ll never be able to grow.”

And this little gold post Johannes posted on CA.org:
Okay guys, here's somewhat of a rant on a few things that have been bugging me lately. I'll update later this day but I need to get this out of my head now so I can concentrate again.

Fist of all I need to say I don't really feel like I'm in any position to give advice, as my skills are far from where they should be, but if I can help anyone with this, it's worth the effort.

One thing that annoys me to no end is how much people seem to concentrate on the wrong things. The reason why I won't show my schedule is that it's nothing more than a piece of paper with stuff written on it. It only takes on meaning in connection with the guy who created it, which would be me. How would my schedule be of use to anyone else? It's really, REALLY important that you stop thinking in this "If I only had" and "What's his secret" mindset. It makes you dependent and weak and will prevent you from growing. THERE ARE NO SECRETS. I don't say this because I don't want to share my stuff, I say it because it's really, really important to grow a spine and learn to ANALYZE YOUR OWN WORK, look for weaknesses, and find ways to tackle them. Don't take anything for granted! If someone else gives you advice, it's a bonus, but you can NEVER depend on it.That's the most important thing my drum teacher taught me, back when I was a young, arrogant kid and sucked at drumming. He crushed my ego completely by showing me all the things I couldn't do, and, more importantly, how to FIND them. You NEED to learn this if you want to improve - look at your own stuff! To me, working completely from imagination is the best way to do this. I draw a figure, and if I had problems with the shoulders, well, then I'd better go back to studying those! And if I will ever be able to draw a flawless figure, then I know sure as hell that I will rot if I stay in my comfort zone any longer. Get the fuck out of there! Do stuff that you can't do! I feel this is essential - do never look at the things you have already achieved! It will make you fat and lazy. Strive for more, reach for the impossible. This is the only way to prevent stagnation. BELIEVE IN YOURSELF! Look at Jason Manley's story, check out MindCandyMan's thread - people can do anything! You just have to WANT it and WORK TOWARDS IT.

Back to the schedule, a piece of paper does NOT help you to get up early, it does not help you to stop slacking. What it does is REMIND you. The greatest danger for drive is, in fact, life. There's always so much stuff happening around you that it's terribly easy to lose sight of your goals. So write them down! This is where motivation and drive come from, at least for me - constantly asking yourself "Am I there yet? No? Well, then I'd better bust out a few more drawings, so I can look myself in the face!" You NEED to have this stuff right in your face, or it will get lost. But as soon as you are able to always think of where you want to be, you'll have the best reason to get up early, to not watch TV, to still draw when everyone else is already asleep.

I touched this above, but let me say it again for emphasis, what I feel is extremely important is becoming INDEPENDENT. This does not mean never talking to anyone else, or that you shouldn't ask for advice if you can't figure out something on your own, or if you're stuck somewhere, I do it too. But it means trying to come up with solutions to your own problems.

This applies to what I said above - if you notice you can't draw hands, then draw hands! But it also applies to questions like "Where do you get your reference?" Well, where would I get reference? Doesn't it, first of all, depend on what you want to do? If you need to study hands, then why not study your own? Get yourself a mirror and start drawing! If you're looking for specific poses, then why not think about it for a second? Are there sports that have these movements? Yes? Well, then go to google and type something like "handball galleries", or go to flickr and search for "flying kick", and you'll find more stuff than you'll ever be able to study in your whole life! It just depends on what YOU need. There's no such thing as the ultimate source, or the ultimate brush, or the ultimate sketchbook paper (Jesus, why does everyone ask DanielC what paper he uses? =D I remember asking him too a while back, he missed my face just by a few inches!) This is really really important - ANALYZE the problem, and then come up with a specific solution.

And this is exactly how your schedule should work. And if that is still not enough, then aim higher! Set more goals, like, update daily, do a character every day, reach this artist's level by that date, and so on. This requires a bit of thinking of where you REALLY want to be. Keep your eyes on the horizon!!

And a last thing that you can't stress enough - listen to Bobby Chiu's podcasts. It's the best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJowNFmuul8

Later!
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Re: Helpful Quotes Thread

Postby Hai » Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:54 pm

" Now a picture is a thing of paint upon a flat surface, and a drawing is a matter of certain marks upon a paper, and how to translate the intricacies of a visual or imagined impression to the prosaic terms of masses of coloured pigment or lines and tones is the business with which our technique is concerned. The ease, therefore, with which a painter will be able to remember an impression in a form from which he can work, will depend upon his power to analyse vision in this technical sense. The more one knows about what may be called the anatomy of picture-making—how certain forms produce certain effects, certain colours or arrangements other effects, &c.—the easier will it be for him to carry away a visual memory of his subject that will stand by him during the long hours of his labours at the picture. The more he knows of the expressive powers of lines and tones, the more easily will he be able to observe the vital things in nature that convey the impression he wishes to memorise."

"It is not enough to drink in and remember the emotional side of the matter, although this must be done fully, but if a memory of the subject is to be carried away that will be of service technically, the scene must be committed to memory in terms of whatever medium you intend to employ for reproducing it—in the case of a drawing, lines and tones. And the impression will have to be analysed into these terms as if you were actually drawing the scene on some imagined piece of paper in your mind. The faculty of doing this is not to be acquired all at once, but it is amazing of how much development it is capable. Just as the faculty of committing to memory long poems or plays can be developed, so can the faculty of remembering visual things."

-Harold Speed on Visual Memory
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Postby normiyagi » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:36 am

"...so I think it is really important...to schedule time...to utterly...fail." - Mullins
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Postby KennyT » Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:18 am

"I have been impressed with the urgency of doing. Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Being willing is not enough; we must do." -Leonardo da Vinci
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Re: Helpful Quotes Thread

Postby moeykaner » Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:48 am

“Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once we grow up.”-Pablo Picasso

“Everything should be made as simple as possible. But not simpler.”-Albert Einstein

“If you can´t explain it simply, you don´t understand it well enough.”-Albert Einstein

“Would it save you a lot of time if I just gave up and went mad now?”- Douglas Adams The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

“A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.”-Bill Watterson Calvin and Hobbes: There's Treasure Everywhere
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Postby Elliottkt » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:44 am

I hope you?d write more pieces. It?s absolutely worth reading.
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Postby Geebler » Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:48 am

"It's surprising how hard we'll work when the work is done just for ourselves." Bill Watterson
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Postby Hai » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:13 am

"He works in a realist manner because he believes that realism is truth, and truth is beauty."
"He said that, “You can paint what you want to paint and not be able to pay the rent, or you can paint what others want you to paint and you can make more money than you know what to do with.”
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Postby Hai » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:02 am

"The way an area of paint meets another area of paint. Ultimately, I think that's what all my paintings are about." - nicolas uribe
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Postby ubem » Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:46 pm

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Postby Erik » Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:10 pm

"They will never shoot you for what you leave out of a picture." -- Howard Pyle, via Gurney.
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Re: Helpful Quotes Thread

Postby Hai » Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:03 am

"If it exists, find a photo. If it doesnt build a model."- Craig Mulluns
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Postby Hai » Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:48 am

"and certainly the pursuit of this ideal by a process of selecting the best features from many models and constructing a composite figure out of them, was productive of very dead and lifeless work."- Harold Speed
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Postby Hai » Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:48 pm

"On one occasion, when the subject set for a composition was a portrait, the criticism was: "not one of them seriously considered." Many we had thought quite good, as an indication of what might be tried while a portrait was in progress. That would not do for Sargent. A sketch must be seriously planned, tried and tried again, turned about until it satisfies every requirement, and a perfect visualization is attained. A sketch must not be merely a pattern of pleasant shapes, just pleasing to the eyes, just merely a fancy. It must be a very possible thing, a definite arrangement -- everything fitting in a plan and in true relationship frankly standing upon a horizontal plane coinciding in their place with a prearranged line. As a plan is to a building, so must the sketch be to the picture."
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Postby Hai » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:00 am

"Remember that the scale-work is only an exercise to help towards clarity of tone, and to encourage invention. Harmony of dark and light does not depend upon fixed intervals, nor will the composer adhere to any scale in his original creative work." -Dow
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Postby foxfire » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:22 pm

"I suggest that you wed yourself so thoroughly to your sketchbook that it almost becomes a physical extension of yourself. And now what you must do is draw and draw and look at drawings and draw and draw and draw and look at drawings and draw..." — From the book Learning to Draw by Robert Kaupelis
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Postby Hai » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:06 pm

"Graphite can be rather laborious, but you are forced to be deliberate and intentional each time your pencil touches the paper. Mistakes are apparent and cannot be hidden by smearing or softening of the medium. You are describing an infinite number of moments on constantly changing planes of a surface." Jacob Collins
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