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How you tackle learning? (share your insights)

Postby Zearthus » Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:32 am

After sleeping on this idea, I decided to come up with my own ideas regarding to how to tackle learning. I feel the reason most peoples feel daunting at start with the complexity of things to learn, is due of how theoretical thinking we're. We never learned how to learn, nor know how to create some sort schedule in school during learning phase. So since childhood you get ingrained to do certain things all the way to adult, to the point where you become a machine.



SUBJECTS THERE IS TO LEARN:
- Composition
- Anatomy
- Perspective
- Color Theory
- Light and Shadow


WAYS TO GO ABOUT LEARNING THE SUBJECTS:


VIDEOS
Proko (Anatomy), svslearn(General), Schoolism(General), Ctrlpaint (Digital Painting), Cgcookie (Digital Painting), New Master Academy (Traditional), Gumroad Tutorials(General)

BOOKS
Loomis(General), Bridgeman (Anatomy), Villpu (Anatomy), Hampton (Anatomy), Ernest Norling (Perspective), Molly Bang(Composition), Color and Light (Color Theory)


COURSES
Watts Atelier Online Program (General), Robot Pencil Mentor Program(General)


In the beginning is best to start a drawing habit, check out these video for more info about it:
http://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/the-drawing-habit
http://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/being-a-beginner



1. ARE YOU HAVING FUN?


IF you're not having fun, the process will just seems like a chore. So I believe its best to experiment with each subject, and pick the one you want to learn the most, you begin with that. After you choose what you want to learn,  you break the complexity to bare minimum. For example, you want to learn anatomy, start with the head, or the torso etc. Be simple about it, don't pick the whole body at first.



2. DELIBERATE PRACTICE


What is deliberate practice? It's practicing something specific which you want to improve on.

More about it from this article:
http://jamesclear.com/deliberate-practice-strategy

While doing deliberate practice, take notes along the side. The power of taking notes helps to remember the information better, and you can always go back to your own notes when you get stuck. 



3A. WHAT IS A ROUTINE? 


A sequence of actions regularly followed; a fixed program. Think of it as repeated practice you do on instruments to get good. For example if you're learning guitar, and you're a beginner, your routine would be how to tune the guitar.

For drawing that would be a repetition of some particular exercises, such as still life drawing, outdoor sketching etc.



3B. WHAT IS A SCHEDULE? 


A plan for carrying out a process or procedure, giving lists of intended events and times.

Schedule really boils to the amount of time you have available. The hardest part of it, is of course sticking to it. So don't be too ambitious about it. One article that can help you out setting out your schedule:

http://artfus.blogspot.com/2012/06/deve ... r-art.html
This is a process of trial and error. So experiment see what works for you.


4. MAKE TIME FOR YOUR IMAGINATION


If you're never going to apply what you learn, then whats the point of learning it? Besides, by drawing it from your imagination you will learn what you still need to practice/improve on



5. KNOW YOUR LIMITS


There is no need to push yourself to do 12 hours a day of draw, know your body limits seriously. Listen to what it tells you. If you gonna ignore it, thou shall pay its debts later. What do I mean by that? Eventually your body will break down, listen to the stories of artists whom drew for 12 hours to 16 hours a day, they all one way or the other inflamed/damage their arms and advised not to do what they did. This is by no means to scare you away from practicing art, rather I want you to be mindful of your own limits.






Based off of what I said, currently this is the way I will be tackling this. I choose the subject I want to learn/interested in, which in this case is Perspective at the moment. I find one or two sources regarding to the chosen subject, for example Ernest Norling, study the book, take notes, apply what I learned later in the day or by the end of each week. This will be a set routine that I do on a consistent basis, I use set routines and weekly themes to stick to for learning.

(Think of it as the same way you learn an instrument, you have a deliberate session of practicing chords, take a long break, after few hours come back, practice what you learned, see where you're still off and needs fixes)

So its a process of Copy/Study/Take Notes then apply.  I do this by drawing from imagination or my own personal work by the end of each week/day depending on the subject. Everything is object to change, as I continue to venture along the way. Feel free to share your own ideas that worked for you.




ADDITIONAL LINKS
http://doodlealley.com/2011/10/19/brick-by-brick/
http://animationresources.org/theory-bi ... -teaching/
https://sivers.org/mindset (Fixed vs Growth Mindset)
http://doodlealley.com/2013/05/01/diversify-your-study/
http://doodlealley.com/2012/11/21/pract ... e-perfect/
http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-6619.html (Same discussion on crimsondagger)




PS: This is just my thoughts I came to, after reading other peoples insights regarding to this matter, and asking peoples on other places. So they're not set in stone, and a must follow thing, more of general guidelines for what to look for if you feel stuck/overwhelmed.
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Re: How you tackle learning? (share your insights)

Postby Sophie_Draws » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:10 am

I think this is a really great topic! I always find it very daunting when it comes to deciding what to study. Is it better to focus on one thing for a while or jump between numerous topics? I think that’s why I struggle with finding a solid routine. Thanks for taking the time to list the videos and books that are great for certain subjects.

Also, I just saw on your sketchbook that’s you’ve left the forum now but thanks for taking the time to post this anyway I always enjoy seeing other peoples thought process.
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Re: How you tackle learning? (share your insights)

Postby Zearthus » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:25 pm

Glad it helped you in any way Sophie,

Off-topic:
Well I didn't really leave the forum, in fact I just lurked around, and possibly made it too over dramatic with my message in order to see how many will actually reach out. And sure enough I received smoe message, which made me rethink, and actually see that the community is still here. Same with the discussion I recently opened about the forum dieng. So gonna try things on my part to bring the forum back to its lively hood.

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Will be sharing another routine I'm testing out in this week, next week.
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Re: How you tackle learning? (share your insights)

Postby Kikindaface » Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:08 pm

nice thread man ! something important you forgot to mention imo is concentration. It seems obvious but not that much for a lot of peoples . I've seen peoples drawing 12 hours a day but with weak focus and lot of distractions, that barely learned something, and the opposite, guys who were drawing 3-4 hours completely focused and that were more productive that the 12 hour guys . Hard work for me, is more a matter of intensity rather than time spent, or maybe both ....
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Re: How you tackle learning? (share your insights)

Postby Zearthus » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:37 am

@Kikindaface
I believe it falls in the part I mentioned, know your limits. But thanks for your reply! :)
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Re: How you tackle learning? (share your insights)

Postby Zearthus » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:35 pm

Updated the main post with additional links that I found fits well with the overall theme of the topic.
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Re: How you tackle learning? (share your insights)

Postby Zearthus » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:28 pm

I have found a really, but really great article in regards to learning, while you're at it, check his other articles:
http://www.learning-to-see.co.uk/six-si ... g-projects
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Re: How you tackle learning? (share your insights)

Postby Skold » Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:32 pm

Great topic! I've been working on something a bit similar recently. I can't think of anything to add at the moment but I'll keep this thread in mind if I come up with something useful :)
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Re: How you tackle learning? (share your insights)

Postby Zearthus » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:43 pm

Great Skold. Look forward to read your input mate :)
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Re: How you tackle learning? (share your insights)

Postby ubem » Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:53 pm

Great post Zearthus!

I think there's a lot of misconceptions about what deliberate practice really is. I've seen many authors skew, distort, and reinterpret the fundamental meaning of deliberate practice in order to appeal to the general public. I had to dig deeper to the original source to find out what the scientists really trying to say. Here's the famous article by K. Anders Ericsson, which I highly recommend: Deliberate Practice

What I've learned so far:
Deliberate practice is difficult, improvement oriented, and requires complete focus. It's when you work on any type of assignment, either from yourself or a mentor, that will strengthen those weak spots and that are at the very edge of your abilities. They may consist of repetitive and challenging actions that work to strengthen a bigger complicated skill set. During your practice, you tweak your mistakes here and there until you get your desired outcome right. Having good, immediate, and accurate feedback, then adjusting your methods accordingly is what it is in essence. But this is a poor summary compared to the vast amount information on this subject.

My experience:
Looking back in my couple weeks of experience, I've found learning through deliberate practice is extremely effective. The evidence of improvement are clearly visible, even after just a couple of hours of practicing. However, the work is intense, mindracking, and fatigue inducing. I've found myself needing naps, breaks and longer stretches of sleep after these drawing sessions (which may be symptoms of Directed attention fatigue). In short, its deliberate hard work.

Also I'm skeptical of the idea '10,000' hours or 10 years of deliberate practice will make you an expert; the data is kind of vague on the true practice time experts have accrued over the years. In my limited experience with deliberate practice, I believe expertise could be achieved much much faster when using an optimal method of practicing.

TL;DR here's some videos that explain Deliberate Practice well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzBCA_5 ... wmeCbXc4z8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNotrEe ... wmeCbXc4z8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFVW_bv ... wmeCbXc4z8
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