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BOOTCAMP 1.1: ACCURACY - 30 day challenge

Postby chazillah » Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:59 pm

▬ ASSIGNMENT: One accurately measured drawing or painting PER DAY
The subject matter can be anything you want, from life or picture reference, as long as it doesn't move and allows you to measure accurately!

1. Go over Dorian Iten's gumroad tutorial: https://gumroad.com/dorianiten

2. Create one accurately drawn image from reference each day. Start with the BIG shapes and major measurements. Focus on getting everything right. Don't get caught up in the details!

3. Double check your drawing by overlaying it with the original. Find out where you are going wrong. Pay close attention to the shapes in the negative spaces.

Assignment Due Date: 30 days from your start date!

▬ LEARNING MATERIAL

Requirement: Dorian Iten's gumroad tutorial: https://gumroad.com/dorianiten

You should know what the following means and how to measure by:
1. Alignment
2. Angles
3. Measurement
4. Implied lines
5. Creaturizing

Let's take a step back as a community, slow down, and make sure we are learning from our references accurately.

1. What's the point of copying a picture accurately? - In order to understand how perspective, structure, form, and everything else works...your studies should be "right" to begin with. If you aren't seeing them right, it is less likely you will understand or draw them correctly from imagination!

i.e, if you are always drawing an eye flat rather than the correct rounded shapes in the reference, you will never understand the form of the eye nor get a sense of it three dimensionally!

2. I still don't see why I should spend so long "getting it right". - There's the answer to your question...you SHOULD spend a long time trying to get it right in the beginning. Yes, it is frustrating! But we must overcome our impatience and rushed quality of drawing. If an artist can't measure basic proportion, drawings will continue to look skewed and wonky and it will be difficult to grasp other concepts.

3. I can't see my mistakes! "Flick" your eyes back and forth from your image to the reference image. You'll notice that your image "morphs" from the original. Try fixing the "morphed" areas the best you can. Otherwise, overlay your original reference when you are done and see what you did wrong. Practice, practice, practice.

Credit to depingo and her livestreams for inspiring this challenge. :)
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Re: BOOTCAMP 1.1: ACCURACY - 30 day challenge

Postby chazillah » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:02 pm

I'll get the ball rolling...

I'm planning on doing 15 days of drawing accurately, then 15 days of painting accurately

DAY ONE: a bad self portrait
I realized that I was moving too much and it was too difficult to measure properly. So I'll be sticking with photo ref for the rest of this!
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DAY TWO: a gimped Daenarys
Just doing this took 2.5 hours alone FML

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Re: BOOTCAMP 1.1: ACCURACY - 30 day challenge

Postby Peninsula » Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:49 pm

Hey Tia,
Thanks for creating another great challenge.
This was pretty enjoyable. I might have missed it in the video, but when trying to be super accurate, what is the best way to start off - like the very first lines. I see some people use crosses, and others including myself likes to just throw some big round shapes in there to indicte the biggest masses, but that might not be extremely accurate. I definitely did wrong this time, becuase I started with the far extended foot, and a small inaccuracy spread into the middle and screwed it up, so I had to do some adjusting.
Let's hope for many participants this time. It's an important topic
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Re: BOOTCAMP 1.1: ACCURACY - 30 day challenge

Postby Maron » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:15 pm

This took.. I don't know how many hours.
Sorry I deleted all the lines..

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Re: BOOTCAMP 1.1: ACCURACY - 30 day challenge

Postby chazillah » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:31 pm

Peninsula wrote:Hey Tia,
Thanks for creating another great challenge.
This was pretty enjoyable. I might have missed it in the video, but when trying to be super accurate, what is the best way to start off - like the very first lines. I see some people use crosses, and others including myself likes to just throw some big round shapes in there to indicte the biggest masses, but that might not be extremely accurate. I definitely did wrong this time, becuase I started with the far extended foot, and a small inaccuracy spread into the middle and screwed it up, so I had to do some adjusting.
Let's hope for many participants this time. It's an important topic


First, I would make sure it's the exact same size as your reference picture. I know this could seem like a 'cheat' to people who measure in figure drawing since they have no resolution or borders, but i think it helps so much for us beginners because the border is a great measuring point...

Second, I personally focus on "measurement" in the sense of placement relative to the border of the page, i.e:
How far is her foot from the left border and bottom border? What is the distance from the top border and her head? How much space is there from the right side of her body to the page? From there, i try to see the negative space shapes.

Afterwards I started applying Iten's concepts one by one. They help for sure, but my thought process kept going back to: "how far is x from y relative to a and b?" -- if that makes any sense lol

this can be applied to life studies and figure drawing too i'm sure, you just have to measure from relative objects (I.e, the stage that the figure is sitting on or the furniture around her)

it takes practice. Mine is full of inaccuracies too and honestly my brain started feeling tired lol.
Make sure you overlay your reference in PS and see where you went wrong. :) keep it up
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Re: BOOTCAMP 1.1: ACCURACY - 30 day challenge

Postby Maron » Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:15 pm

Day 2.

Sorry, just a wip!
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Postby chazillah » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:53 pm

day 3..

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Postby Sophie_Draws » Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:47 pm

Day 1
I hope I can stick with this. I’m not even sure I’ve done it correctly! Also got too caught up in details.
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Postby chazillah » Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:42 am

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Postby Peninsula » Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:52 am

Almost killed me, but painted it in the hangout so it was cool. Let's call it day 2 and 3

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Postby chazillah » Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:34 am

@peninsula - oh sh---------- NICE!!!!!!!! :)))))))))) Lol yeah doing one per day is really hard and probably leads to rushing. I think it's fine if we take more than one day to complete one : D I might do that but still aim to output 30 of them
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Postby Sophie_Draws » Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:52 pm

Peninsula – Aah, so good! Looking forward to seeing your progress with the challenge.
Day 2 – dear god
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Postby chazillah » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:19 pm

@Sophie_draws - there's some improvement Sophie! But you should find more measurements to help you with the face placements, watch your shapes =)


this will be my master study..drawing today and painting tomorrow (or over two days, however long it takes to push it *_*)
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Postby Sophie_Draws » Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:15 pm

Chazillah – Thank you, I’ll try and set up more markers. Can’t wait to see the painted master study!

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Postby chazillah » Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:40 am

Sophie_Draws - ;_;

day 4 ;_;
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Postby Peninsula » Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:34 am

Sophie, definitely better than the last one. Remember that a lot of inaccuracies in abstract shapes and distances can go by unseen by the audiences, while familiar shapes that are easily recognized by everyone must be right, and should be your primary concern in these studies. In your sketch, our left arm looks odd because the lenght of the shoulder area is as long, or longer than her overarm. The features in her face are also all placed too quickly. Next time look more accurately at the face in the ref and draw the features exactly as you see them, not how you think or how you remember that say an eye should look like. Also, look at those nice measuring lines already established at the wall behind her. You should work with what you have! :D

Tia, nice job not getting distracted by those textures! The temperature looks really solid aswell

day 4. Looking forward to paingting this tonight or tomorrow.
1. get the big shapes right
2. add sufficient details for a smooth painting process without mistakes

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Postby Sophie_Draws » Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:04 pm

Chazillah – noooo it looks good!
Peninsula – Thanks for the advice. You’re so right, the anatomy is pretty off and I definitely didn’t spend long enough on the face. On to the next one, I guess!

This was a really quick one, about 35 minutes in the morning before work.
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Postby chazillah » Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:02 pm

keep it up everyone. i cant see what you did Sophie cause my internet is slow and not loading images, but good job on keeping at it

damn all those hours and it still isn't right :/ measurement is so finicky

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Postby Sophie_Draws » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:13 pm

Thanks :)
Day 5 – the struggle is real
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Postby chazillah » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:10 am

nice improvement sophie
muscle studies from a book, doesnt really count that much i guess . bad day
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Postby Sophie_Draws » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:32 pm

Day 6
Sorry about this, had no time today :(
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Postby Sophie_Draws » Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:23 pm

Wip for day 7 – only had about 30 mins this morning so I’ll finish it off tomorrow.
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Postby chazillah » Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:57 am

Sophie_Draws wrote:Wip for day 7 – only had about 30 mins this morning so I’ll finish it off tomorrow.


this would be a great one to push to a final painting!!! :)
I think you need more lines helping you with the accuracy though. try to simplify the hair and other curves into simple, straight lines. try to match the angles of those lines exactly with the ref


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you'll see you're missing the angles quite a bit in your drawing
don't forget to keep the face in line too
i think you're getting too caught up in details too early in the process my dear
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you would also benefit from "creaturizing" aka seeing shapes in the negative spaces
er, you don't need to "see a creature" per se, but definitely look for the shapes in the negative space or big areas. it will help you measure
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lastly, you should pay attention more to 'double measurements' and the spacing comparisons
how far apart are the eyes? how far are they from the side of the head? what angle do they align at?
her head is clearly tilted but you drew her head as if she were keeping her head level
this mistake means you are seeing a bit of her head tilt, but not understanding that the horizontal alignments are going to be tilted too:
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look closely at what you're doing to the face
your eye is drawing the tilted axis slightly, but you are aligning her eyes, nose, and mouth with a straight horizontal line
this does not make a perpendicular!! and when you are aligning your features they should be perpendicular to the vertical.

lastly, make sure you are 'flicking' your eyes back and forth between the ref and the drawing. try really hard to see where you aren't following the big shapes and measurements. when you are done, overlay your ref image on your study and click the "hide/show" icon in photoshop really fast, on and off, to see where you went wrong and take note

i hope that makes sense! let's see you push it Sophie :)
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Postby Peninsula » Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:03 pm

day 5 and 6.
Man I learned so much from these fancy pants!

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Postby Sophie_Draws » Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:09 pm

Aah thank you so much for the taking the time to post that crit, I’ve seen from your sketchbook that you’ve been busy so thank you! I tried redoing with more lines and it definitely helped. I’ve started painting it but it sucks compared to yours and Peninsula’s work haha.
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Postby chazillah » Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:18 pm

good work you guys!
looking better sophie. still some alignment problems but you're getting there!


back to it!
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Postby Sophie_Draws » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:55 pm

Just put some quick colours on the last one, although it is pretty rushed so I’ll make that up with the next one. I’m hoping to spend a good bit of time painting it.
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Postby Peninsula » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:48 pm

wow wicked improvement, the last one looks like it'll turn out great Sophie! Watch her jawline though, the one you got going now doesn't look very feminine
I'll be abroad for the best part of the next month, so I won't be active on the challenge for some time. I bet you guys are accuracy specialsts when I come back :p I hope so!
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Postby Sophie_Draws » Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:28 pm

Peninsula - they are looking great! I changed her jawline a bit so hopefully it looks better.
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Postby Sophie_Draws » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:46 pm

I hope you guys don’t think I’m posting too much on here haha. Here is todays study; the colours are so off, even when I did a colour pick to check the accuracy I could see I was getting the colours wrong but I just couldn’t get it. Hopefully by the end of this I’ll be able to actually get the colours somewhat correct because I’m definitely still seeing what I want to see. Ramble over.
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