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Send her to the pit

Postby Naidy » Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:14 am

Thought I'd check this place out since it seems to have a good vibe, and any feedback from anywhere is appreciated.
I'll start off by loading up some recent sketches.
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CURRENT WEAKNESSES THAT I AM AWARE OF:
CONSTRUCTION/eyes,noses, mouths can slide across the face. Need to study faces and the planes more to avoid this.
/ Limbs and torsos are a bit rubbery and lack form. Need more figure studies

COLOUR AND TONE/ Everything to do with this. Everything. I'll try to do more. Particularly digital because its easier to sort out what im doing.

I'll post more soon, but any feedback in general is very welcome.
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Palladium » Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:41 am

Welcome to permanoobs Naidy:D Your stylization is quite nice, I really like the first sketch. For learning more about color, check out Jeremy Vickory's Gnomon Dvd, Practical Light and color. Also check out James Gurney's Color and Light book. And when in doubt, do tons of color studies, environments, portraits, master paintings. Don't color pick from the original source though, try and analyze the image, look for bounced light etc etc. Also, this is something that might be hard, but I've been trying it lately, focus on one thing about the image that you want to convey in the study, make it the main focus. Whether it be color, gesture, or the piercing look the person is giving the viewer. If you haven't already, check out this site ctrlpaint. Tons of tutorial videos for free, and they're short too. So you can get back to being creative when the videos over lol. Can't wait to see more Naidy:D
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby killdeer » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:24 am

One thing I wish I knew when I started out was to stick to the fundamentals (Perspective, color, Shape, Value). Really make that your main focus and watch yourself grow by painting things from imagiation. Art is not easy. It is hard work. If you want to get good at it, you have to grind every day even if you don't feel like it. If you do that, Naidy, you will be able to create more beatifull art every day.
In the words of Leonardo: "Draw, Antonio, draw, Antonio, draw—don’t waste time."
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby spikie » Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:02 am

Hey! I like your painting and the screencap redraw, it seems like you're interested in unusual color and lighting situations and I'd follow that! Like said before, the fundamentals are really important, especially drawing, but I think you have the right idea with doing studies and master copies will help too. I personally learned a lot from drawing from life, and I'd try a few different methods to see what works best for you! Some work better using guides, some work better drawing using rhythm and trying to nail the lines you need with out guides, and both have their pros and cons. Ideally, be good at both if you can.

As for color, this tutorial actually really helped inform my understanding of it, it's a tad old but when it comes to explaining simultaneous contrast I think it's great http://fav.me/d31xj5t
and this page is just generally great, but also for color http://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm

Also! I totally understand wanting to focus on digital, but improving your traditional painting really helps that more than I think people give credit for. So my challenge for you, do some studies traditionally! Pick your favorite movie/anime/whatever stills (like your doing for the redraw) and try to capture the color that's going on. If something seems off, pick at it thinking like this: is it the hue? is it the value? or is it the saturation? I guarantee that you'll be able to fix it!
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Darnis » Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:36 pm

Welcome! ;)
Good to see a familiar face.
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Naidy » Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:54 am

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Cheers for the excellent feedback, guys. Its refreshing, that much I can tell you.

Darnis: Same to you ;)

Spikie: I definitely need to do more master copies, haven't for years, which is never a good thing. Interesting you say to avoid digital because I'm actually mainly a traditional worker. Pencils and watercolours are my default. I only move into digital as a quick break sketch. I always believe in grasping traditional first so I'll keep at it. Need to put some actual paintings up. The links you sent were really useful too. I've bookmarked them and sent them around friends haha. Thanks again for taking the time to give such useful feedback.

killdeer: Yeah, everyone definitely needs to do fundimentals in order to tackle subjects. Uh, I find out too from experience if you don't brush up frequently you actually lose your understanding a bit. If it shows I lack understanding on those fundimentals it's a sign I haven't brushed up on them in a while. Guh. Hard news but everyone needs to hear it some time or another. Cheers for the advice.

Palladium: Cheers for the words of wisdom, the links you and spikie sent were very useful, I always forget about bounced light. Good advice about the studies as well. Definitely going to keep them in mind.


I dont have much to show because I'm also juggling a dissertation and 3rd year work in general.
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby spikie » Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:36 pm

Glad to help, but oh man sorry about that! I'm glad to hear you've already been working traditionally, that's great. If you're interested, I'd encourage trying to work with a more opaque medium like acrylic or gouache, since it tends to be less about the layering of washes to get a color than mixing for that specific color. I guess that's what I'm trying to get at, learning how to mix colors like that is helpful, but it's just a suggestion.

anyways, I'm really liking the drawings this week! those are some nice hand studies, and I like the tree composition as well, very interesting. The characters are fun too, and I love that you drew them sleeping together, it gives us an idea of what their relationships to each other are. Another thing you're doing really well is not just drawing an emotionless, doll-face character; each one has it's own attitude, and I like it's coming across clearly.

Ok! time for nit-pickyness lol, just because these are really quite good: the goat characters is their body language isn't very naturalistic. The one on the left is a bit better, since I get that they're introverted and kind of holding the pot close to their body in an insecure way, but their left arm is getting uncomfortably bent.

With the one on the right, I think I understand what you were trying to do, but the two halves of their body are facing different directions too extremely, and their weight doesn't seem balanced. One way to fix this if you were to draw it again would be to just have the left leg face forward, and the right leg extend out to the right a bit, to show the weight shifting to that forward facing leg. Also, watch out for the shoulders, they're getting a little narrow and are very downsloped, giving the appearance of almost no-shoulder that you see on the left side.

Another thing you can think about is the character's overall proportions. What I love about the lady and the kid making faces behind her is that their head to body ratio is varied nicely. The issue that makes the goat characters not as immediately interesting despite their costumes and faces is that they're equally divided up by their waist band. Their heads are also fairly large, but right now they're at a size where it feels like another equally-sized portion of their body.
If you look at characters from games and movies, you see that they're designed with this in mind, for example La muerte is very different looking from Xibalba in the Book of Life, and Manolo looks very different from Maria because their bodies are made up of different shapes of different sizes. Just something to think about!

The color pieces look really nice too, I see a lot of fun experimentation but also a leaning towards neutral colors, maybe for your next one try a very bright day light scene!

Overall, great work, I'm glad you're still trucking through even though you're still in school and stuff, I know that's really difficult!
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Naidy » Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:38 am

Spikie: Oh man, I love your feedback. I haven't had people really digging into critique my stuff since I was like 17. Feels good!
I didn't even notice what I did to the second woman's torso, its incredible I didn't notice actually. Its pretty obvious now.

I'm really glad you like the proportions of the hairy people, I've had to play with those lot many times since I wanted them to be distinctive. I definitely need to play more with the goat people, you've given me a lot to think about which is pretty exciting actually!
Interesting about the colours, I usually am known for being too vibrant and eye hurty with my colours, which my tutors have been banging on about for ages, so when I notice a bad habit I tend to litterally pull myself in the opposite direction, hopefully I'll reach a nice middle ground that appeals more to me and others, if that makes sense?

I also did a life drawing with digital, was definitely good fun for me, I actually want to do it more often. I'll see if I do.

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I actually forgot to say I'm working on these big boards for my FMP mixture of acrylic and pencil? I need to take photos some time.
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Naidy » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:47 am

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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Hatsby » Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:47 am

Hi there! No real feedback to offer, except for the facial anatomy issues you pointed out yourself.
I'm in love with your style of coloring though :D
Keep up the good work!
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Naidy » Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:00 am

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Cheers, Hatsby! Been playing around with how I handle colour a lot this year.
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Indrik » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:34 pm

I remember your SB from CA! You have such a distinctive flow to your sketches.
Me likey :)
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Naidy » Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:20 am

Indrik: Cheers, feller ;)

Finished my dissertation. In Ireland, I'm feeling pretty good and doing a fair lot of life sketches
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Also me tablet's buggering up and I'm not impressed. Here's hoping its to do with the wire.
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Naidy » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:07 am

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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby algenpfleger » Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:25 am

whaaat :D i love your drawings

also i guess practice looking at painting more from a "all i see is light" rather than "i'm coloring lines" angle. squint squint squintttt and flat brush studies pls :D
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Naidy » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:35 am

Aaaaa thank you Algen!
Cheers for the advice as well. I'll work on flat brush studies in my break, because that sounds pretty fun.

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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Naidy » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:53 am

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Crunchtime mode in uni right now, working on FMP hoping to turn the big boards into a constanteena as well.
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby spikie » Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:47 pm

Loving the drawings, I think you're making really good progress! looking forward to seeing the giant drawing all done too.
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby caseylarae » Fri May 08, 2015 11:00 am

Loving those life drawings! Gorgeous line quality <3
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby rocco » Sun May 17, 2015 4:48 pm

I really love the line quality, values and charm of the drawings, but you should really do some more paintings. There's a huge difference in your paintings and drawings right now. It's like there's this great drawing of this babe holding her head, but the painting part just feels lazy. I use to just setup an apple and paint it and that seemed to help a lot. I gotta do a ton more of them as well.
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Naidy » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:38 am

Sorry for the long pause, graduated and moved etc... Haven't been drawing as much as I'd like due to these things. Hoping to pick up the pace again though.

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Spikie: Cheers! They're done allright, but I wasn't too happy with the results. Was good practice though.
Casey: Thank you!
Rocco: Yeah, whenever I paint I seem to find difficulty with local colour and tone?? Frustration and lazyness is the result, I definitely need to do some still lifes and maybe more painting from mirror? Traditional seems to be a way forward too, since I generally work with watercolour out when im not using pencils. Definitely need to pick up the game when it comes to colour and painting in general. Cheers for the advice, its much needed!

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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Uyeno » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:00 am

NAIDY OMG YOU JOINED THIS SITE! Really great to see you and your art again!! (: Your style is great as ever! I don't really see any anatomy issues in your faces. I lovee your stylized painted faces and your comics, so much beautiful detail! apojfpafaafasda yeah I'm glad you joined! Also you should update more :o
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Mahrkatt » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:26 am

Wow, I really like your drawing and colouring style!!
Can't wait to see mor of your stuff :3
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Aestechnics » Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:13 pm

Your linework is just gorgeous owo
I wish I could offer some critique but at my level it'd likely be counterproductive...so I suppose I'll just say welcome back and I hope you keep on posting!
Now that you've started again build more momentum and keep on going!
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Sketchbook here! Would love to get any criticism or feedback you have!
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Nowio » Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:44 pm

Whoah your lines are gorgeous!
So far I can't see how or what to crit, sorry D: Maybe if I get a bit used to your lines I'll be able to say more :)
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Naidy » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:33 am

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Cheers for the replies everyone. Pretty sure I managed to comment on everyone's sketchbooks.
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Sophie_Draws » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:28 am

Your line quality is great! I think your traditional work and sketches are really interesting to look at, your style is really expressive. It'll be good to see more painted work from you!
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Naidy » Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:57 pm

Sophie: Cheers for the kind words, I'll pop round to your sketchbook soon enough.

Not much here, just mirror studies of my face and hands.

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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Zipfelzeus » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:16 pm

Oh man those comic pages and the big pencil illustrations are really sweet :)) Really neat style you have going here.
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Re: Send her to the pit

Postby Nowio » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:40 pm

Heya thanks for visiting my sketchbook! ;)

As I mentioned before I'm in love with your lines BUT I'm noticing that your digital lines are lacking in confidence compared with traditional. Then it seems like you have a good feel where to set eyes, nose and mouth but the form of your faces seems a bit random, I think some studies on facial structure would benefit you. Also I would love to see more full figures in the future :)
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