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Re: Super Busy Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Luna » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:33 am

Why here are so much "Marriage" Pressure? ... I like just being happy and working hard for now~ ^_^
It was fun that some of my old friends was very kind to ask me if I want to marry with ... once they find out I haven't and believe that I am "too old to not marry"~ ; v; ~ come on~ I am not yet~~~ lol~~~~╰( ̄▽ ̄)╮

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Re: Super Busy Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Luna » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:42 am

I will learn and I should find a way of cooperate with you in the future... I wish I can at least!

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By the way, here are one of the photo I took from the pile of fence window in my work place couple of weeks ago~ ^_^ meow~~
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Re: Super Busy Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Luna » Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:24 am

I want to change the style, I found maybe the simplest style right now can help~ but the realistic style always brings the shock~ but I can't do it so far~ >v<// so panic...
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Re: Super Busy Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Luna » Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:23 am

Btw, here are my <The peacock pearl> first part of Storyboard done, almost forgot to uploaded!~
It's the story from the start till the peacock's dead (the start part of this story)
Thanks a lot for Chris's all the suggestions for helping me to change the whole animation storyboard since the very first version till so far:

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Re: Super Busy Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby chazillah » Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:35 am

Lunaaaa! great storyboarding and storytelling, but I want to see those studies. where are they hiding? you can do a lot better with your placement in those portraits, I know it. better technique will help you communicate these great ideas!!!


let's see you crank them out girl! D:<
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Re: Super Busy Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Luna » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:00 am

chazillah ●▽● Yes, Tia!!!!! Thank you very Much!!!! o(∩_∩)o HOHO~ I will do studies for them soon!!!!! Thank you!!! <3
I was busy playing some software to combine the animatic earlier, now I will do you said~!!! it's the time for Stuuuudy!!! Y@v@∠※

couple of study and trying to do it from my imagination. the imagination is from a music called <The promise - Immediate Music> drew this image, but I found it's still different than what really in my mind, I know because my skill is not good enough~ Let's keep kkkking! ^_^ meow~
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today's morning study. I have found more about what I really want during those time, still need to be more detailed¬ :)
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Re: Super Busy Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby CiprianHanga » Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:29 pm

Hello there, Luna, I'm posting this quickly just to let you know how impressed I am with your progress and the amount of drawing that you do. These will get you really far! Your line work is already really, really, nice, and those Bridgman studies... man! You need to work more on the color side of things (that's my weakness, too, so I feel your pain, lol) but overall you're doing amazing, and thinking that you also are so scraped on time it's really motivational. You really inspire me to draw more than I do.

I read a comment a few pages previously, where you said your desired art style is not marketable in your area. I would say that is not that much of a problem now with the Internet, if you get really good you WILL get work from elsewhere around the world. I actually advise against conducting your studies to fit the style that's in your area, if it's not what you LOVE. Doing so will make you work for the sake of working to please those near you, which is not good. Keep drawing stuff that YOU like, that inspires YOU. That way drawing will always be fun and interesting. Otherwise it will get really boring, like a second job that you HAVE to do, instead of something that you LOVE to do, and WANT to do.

I see you are interested in more of a Western style, while myself (ironically) I am interested more in the Eastern style, mixed with a Western flavor. I have no idea if what I do is marketable where I live, most likely not, but I keep doing it because I really love the vision I have in my mind about it and I KNOW when people will finally be able to see what I intend to do (and for now it's only the skill that I'm lacking to make it happen) I KNOW they'll love it enough to get work in that style. So right now I'm committed to improve to be able to make that vision a reality, even if it's only in my mind so far. But it's MY vision, so that gives me a lot of energy and motivation.

If I decided to do stuff just to please the market I'm in, which doesn't interest me at all, I'm sure my studies will get so uninspiring and dull that I will probably drop it all altogether! I know you have a job ATM and you are able to support yourself, which is great for an artist (even though the time issue is tough sometimes). But keeping a supporting job allows you to do as part time what you love to do, and that's great. Don't feel pressured to get good just to be able to make a living with your art, because that kind of motivation will get you impatient and frustrated very fast. Instead, just focus on art for the sake of art, and for the love of it. You will get good enough to make a living out of it, for sure, but until there don't use it as the main motivation.

Anyway, keep doing what you do, and I can't wait to see more.
xoxo, Ciprian
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Re: Super Busy Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Luna » Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:50 am

CiprianHanga Hello CiprianHanga, Thank you so much for the strong idea of keep our own drawing style/feelings!!! ^_^ You have given me a big encouragement! ^_^ You are totally right, I shall be very happy with the situation and focus on art! @v@// I have met another teacher recently which is an traditional Chinese artist, he has talked with me a totally different ideas about this art world that I would like to try...... o(∩_∩)o hm....... <3
Thank you so much!!!!! @v@// I will definitely keep going!!! I am soooo moved, CiprianHanga! Thank you! x
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I am going to chase a train in 10 mins. ^_^

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Re: Super Busy Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Luna » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:54 am

Too happy to keep being busy back sitting in my place right now~ scanned the stuff I have done last month till recently and ... ●▽● I have done one mus, hopppppe finish that 2 soon and get combine them annnnnnd I shall have a little rest time! @v@/

Things draw before some are .... of course still for <The peacock pearl>
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Re: Super Busy Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Luna » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:30 am

this page is not much live drawings.
Also during those months I learned a lot to being a human, if looking at the sad part of the things, there will be no ending. So turn back, when the light comes, there always dark behind it.
btw, more for The peacock pearl. just uploading for now. basic animatic v1.0 has done long ago, busy recording things and changing couple of images also going outside very often to meet older people and better knowledge human to listen how they think of things. ^^ that's for now
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Re: Super Busy Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Hai » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:47 pm

Great drawings little Raccoon. Beautiful Designs and Typography.
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Re: Super Busy Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby ErnieTheMighty » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:53 pm

Looking good, Lunaaaaa! You know it! Your landscapes are soooo cooool!
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Re: Super Busy Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Luna » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:17 am

Hai ●▽● Thank you, Hai!!!!! o(∩_∩)o thanks for your encouragement! ^_^ <3
Little fox <33333 Thank you for encourage little raccoon! >v< xxxx

I think I will finally finish that 15 seconds Demo. and I turned a little crazy, so I went outside enjoyed a little sunset and drew a little study for happy ^_^
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Re: Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Luna » Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:04 am

1. Timetable has changed!
2. last Friday, milk and his gf quit the job, and the company's boss quit the job today. and during those few months, there were around 10 people quit the job, but the company only has just over 10 people~ >v<// interesting life~ I was a silly raccoon again.... I am going to ignore 10000000 words so far...... I recommend one of my old old friend come to the com to be a new boss coz he has the leadership~ @v@//
3. I have met that musician, one of his album has been sold over 100,0000 but he got nothing from there... poor him... but I like him being a musician~ Keep going! I wish I can do sth as well.... although I can do nothing so far~~ at least I wished for now... <3
and from now on~ I need a real steady heart instead running over the whole city every week without any help(no money)~
But I did what I wished few months ago and I love my team sprites(ghost? ; v;)~
come back to "real life" about drawing everyday and forget my old boss~ coz I tried hard to help this company even all my dear friends has left this com... because they worked to hard but didn't even get enough to live... I totally understand them, I survived coz my dear parents... I guess there are 2 ppl in this world are the god... my parents... <3 Thank you! I will never forget and I will try to bring sth back to the human (i m a raccoon although)
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Re: Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Imbalantus » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:13 am

Your calligraphy is beautiful!

You always asked about line quality, and it turns out you already know how to achieve good line quality. Draw the figures like you do calligraphy and then you will have great line quality also in your figures.
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Re: Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Nowio » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:35 pm

Hey Luna, really love your new callography exercises! :)
Wish you all the good and take care of yourself ;)
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Re: Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Luna » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:02 am

Imbanana ●▽● I always asked about the line quality, and I keep asking :P :P :P .... and I found that old guy (a traditional Chinese Artist) I mentioned to you in your sb, and he told me lots of weird logic, one is like "the best level is going to ignoring the real world shapes forget that and only feel.... something like ghost/sprite.... @>@...(scary because he didn't explain too much about it, he only told me I shall feel it once I get there)... meow~" and another thing is answering about my question about "how to get a good line quality?" which is "do lots of calligraphy first... (no ending, no other answer so far~ but practice a lot, he ask me to do around thousands pages and after that I can find him again...; v;...what...why...)"
but, THANK YOU for encourage me!!!! @v@// I hope my line quality are getting better (?!) YEAH!! o(∩_∩)o
I shall keep going then! meow~~ (>^ω^<) <3 And whatever I want to be as good as yours first~ :P :P :P

Nowio Thank you Very much!!! o(∩_∩)o I will keep going then!! @v@Y <3 x

I bought a new VPN today with my friend's help! ^_^ And I finally can come to Permanoobs without crying! HOHO~ I actually spent a day try to upload 4 images (since last night~) and it only been solved this afternoon after I bought this VPN! @v@// So I have got it! YEAH!! I am so happy! Also some of my Chinese artists friends are playing drawing games with me sometimes, we did a lot, and I found some of their work are not bad at all, just they are not easy enough to speak English, so I want to build a little thread for us together for all the artwork we do each games, I will try to upload them after translate them~ ^_^
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Re: Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Imbalantus » Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:04 am

I see no weird logic from the old man. I don't think that he is talking about ghosts. I think he is just saying that if you try to just copy reality and try to understand everything with the brain, then you won't get far, because that way you will not understand!!! what you're drawing. He isn't saying that you should close your eyes and move your hand just according to feeling, no, he is saying that you should look and feel the inner movement and dynamics of what your looking at.

How can a human understand shapes, forms, lines? They have no logical content, they don't talk, they don't tell a story, lines and shapes have no mathematical equation. So how to understand them? Obviously you can't understand them with the rational mind. The only way to understand them is through feeling. We could say that humans have brain intelligence, but also body intelligence. And body intelligence works through feeling! Body intelligence also understands, but not on the rational level, body intelligence understands on the level of feeling. That's why in art it's often helpful to feel oneself into what you want to draw.

My psychology professor once gave us a very simple example of body intelligence. He told us to make two abstract drawings, one based on the word „Takete“, and the other based on the word „Malula“ (both words have no meaning in German language). Everyone automatically drew hard and zig-zaggy lines for Takete, and everyone drew soft and flowing lines for Malula. For the rational mind both words have no meaning, so what can one draw based on them? Nothing. But for body intelligence the words do have a meaning, body intelligence feels the meaning and that's why based on the body intelligence' understanding everyone drew two different pictures.

When we do calligraphy then we practise precisely this skill. We practise how to feel lines, shapes, forms.

I think the old man told you everything correctly. He told you what tools you need (use feeling, not just copying), and how to practise them (calligraphy).
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Re: Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Cruptic » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:24 am

Hey Luna how are you doing?!? :) It's been ages since I saw your work but I think I was just not paying much attention to your sketchbook since you have been posting awesome work all along -.- :D It's incredible to see how far you have come from the beginning and I'm so curious to see where we all going to end up. I read your little story that you wrote and drew for example and I think it's so great! You always put so much love into your characters and always seem to have some kind of backstory to them or thoughts or feelings and it's just super cool to see! not like some of us who just study for studying reasons or paint because they want to imrpove technique (which is me all the time :'( :D). so yes I have lots of respect for you doing that!! :))

Also very cool that you got that vpn-thingy and I guess that means you're going to be on here more often?! I feel bad for not keeping up with you in terms of what you're doing and all.. been growing quiet for a while and going my own paths but want to get back into a community again now slowly :))

Anyways enough of my rambling about nonsense :D I actually just wanted to write about line quality because you keep bringing it up and I wanted to tell you that I think .. and I guess a lot of people say that, it comes only from thousands of hours of practice and drawing tons... sooo I think you're doing great, drawing a ton was always something you were good at so I think there is no need to worry :D but i also agree with imba, your calligraphy is going to help you lots and it's also super cool to look at even if I don't understand a word (I stopped learning chinese again :(( ) but yes if I take a look at your figure drawings I can see just how much you've imrpoved on your lines already and it will not get worse from now on I bet ;) I still do 10 lines to get a leg right and your putting down 2 llines and it looks great soo.. just keep going as always :))
Im gonna stop myself from writing now :D keep going and have fun drawing! much love :)
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Re: Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby crankshaft » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:19 pm

Great work! For the second recent pic I would try some darker values for the background to better separate it from the characters. Also the picture is rather high key and can use darker values for contrast as well. Wishing you all the best!
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Re: Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Luna » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:14 am

Imbanana Thank you soooo much, Imbanana!!! <3 I felt I totally understood the old teacher's logic after saw your description! ●▽● Thank you so much and very moved for the time and your logic! <33333 I felt sometimes I just doesn't worked for the logic that you can simply described, I was thinking "because I am a genius raccoon so I can learn it" but I guess logic this kind of things is not just by "learning" and life is too shorts (only 10000 of years) maybe I shall take those little time to do the useful things and focus on it, And Maybe after that I might just magically get your good logic then! Y(●▽●)b hehe~ meow~ I shall keep doing the calligraphy then to see what will happen next instead of getting lazy of basic practise! Moooo~~~
use feeling and not just copying without brain (zombieeees~~~ moo~~~)
Imbanana!!! I like banana! I just eat an banana and it's very delicious! ^_^ I guess Imbanana is as nice as the banana I just yum yum~ Thank you very much! o(∩ω∩)o

Cruptic HOHO! \(^o^)/ Cruptic!!! I was busy running around the city finding humans to talk and meetings those couple of months, so I was also meeting people can play music as well! ^_^
But I felt that if during a time that just foucs on painting or a special skill, it looks like the best way of improving it! And it can improve very fast, like when I see your improvement by just studying the paitings, your color is getting so close and so realistic to the real world! That'a path I think I will be too difficult to get there without my teacher.
But community can have funs and some exciting things to even improve skills more, SO it sounds like a good idea! but be careful of your timetable! ^_^
hmm! @v@// I will keep trying to study calligraphy then to see how far it can help my lineart and I will try thousands of them too. Let's keep working hard for drawing skills! ^_^ Gooooood luck! meow!└(●▽●)┘

crankshaft Thank you, crankshaft!!! ●▽● That's right! I just used digial make the dark place darker and light area ligher and the images looks nicer! It's very nice your sharp eyes saw it and bringing it up! HOHO Same best wishes to you too! Y^v^Y

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Timetable has changed, but I didn't follow it very much, so will make my timetable easier then try it again! >v<// I like the free time before and missing that time too coz I didn't wasted any, I just need a place to start go to a right path, but I know I can get there but with a new important thing to do in the same time! @v@// GooD LucK~ baaaaaa~~~
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Re: Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby chazillah » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:17 am

your placement is gradually getting better, good work Luna! would really like to see a long (like 8 hour+) study from you
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Re: Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby markus32 » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:25 am

Hey little one, hahaha!

Nice to see u rocking! So much work! I always liked your color studies, they look so live to me! This project look prmissing, I want to see more and more of those!

Keep going Luna! More!
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Re: Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Peninsula » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:47 am

Ay Caramba! These ink drawings of the boy and his dog are too good! This isn't Disney is it?
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Re: Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby BluePup » Sun Nov 08, 2015 10:27 am

I love your sketches, Luna! Lovely linework!
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Re: Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Luna » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:44 pm

Raccoon Lady ●▽●Thank you, dear Raccoon Lady!!! --> And Yes! I totally got this idea, long study certainly can help to bring to the next level! @v@// hmm, I will start to do it! <3 X

Markus Thank you, Markus!!! ^^ Just not all the arts I was worried recently~ :P But I should! @v@

Axel ●▽● Nop~ it's not Disney, it's a human drawing book and 20th century Chinese traditional Manga story I was trying to studied that character because I found they were all using the brush drew everything, I think it's interesting if I am going to study their linework~ ^v^ meow~

Bluepup Thank you, BluePup!! o(∩_∩)o
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Re: Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby KirqueDuSoleil » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:19 pm

I'm really liking your ink work (especially the peacocks, which look very beautiful). Your anatomy is improving rapidly as well, it's good to see all of those studies from life as well as more expressive ones from imagination in ink. It might be work checking out if there are any life drawing classes around where you live (either nude or clothed) because drawing people on public transport is great but in a class with a model you can get some more time and better angles of view.

I think something that I would like to see you do is some more is more texturing in your sketches. I've found the pencil sketches by Alphonse Mucha to be really good for this:

http://s52.radikal.ru/i138/1208/51/f32c5535bcdd.jpg
http://i052.radikal.ru/1208/d4/4307e7ef2962.jpg
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http://nonahyytinen.com/wp-content/uplo ... 02_100.jpg
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Re: Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Cruptic » Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:41 am

Gogogogogo Luna!
Ink is so unforgiving and hard to wrap your head around but you're doing great I think. Keep experimenting and practicing!! Once you are decent at ink drawings wow I don't think pencil or anything else is going to be much of a problem for you.
Keep up them anatomy studies too though I feel like they help sooo much! :)
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Re: Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Luna » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:15 pm

Sorry for the long absence... I have quit my job this Monday and I think my plan is back to draw now~ ^_^

KirqueDuSoleil Thank you very much for encourage me and given me suggestions, KirqueDuSoleil!!! ●▽● It's very kind of you! :D hmm.. sorry for being so long to reply you....@_@ I was... got something I didn't make time out before.... I have missed few times of back to keep drawing... hmm... but I tried to use your suggestions, it's working nicely~ o(∩_∩)o Thank you again, KirqueDuSoleil!!! <3
Also Merry Christmas to you!!! @v@b

Cruptic Hallo Cruptic!!! I am so sorry for the lonng..... I came to see your comments couple of times after my work and I was very very excited, just got too many new accidents happen, but now I am free and Finally get chance to reply to you! Thank you so much for encourage me, dear Cruptic!!! <3 I shall keep going! Merry Christmas! ^v^

I quit my job this Monday and soon the next day my dear friend Rachel asked me to go to her company to join their Christmas Party, and I stayed at her flat that night... And I got a new American friend form her company... very nice, I went to a University last night for a lecture... Thanks... hmm... I think I am growing after those months experience although most of my friends think I went to this com was the mistake, but I learned many form it too! ^_^
OK~ time to back to work... I missed the time I had a clear mind and only draw and one lovely teacher taught me and asked me keep going... why I have stopped... no reason is a reason... just up~ meow! :)
(the animatic I shall polish bit more then put here later, otherwise too ashamed to show anything ; v;)

anyway some Master studies and imaginations ... :D
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Re: Luna learns to draw (2015) (>^ω^<)

Postby Luna » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:00 am

By the way, after I quit my job I got another piece done recently...

This is my new composition draft I have recorded in Christmas night~ Unfinished. (^_^) looking forward some critiques and feedback. :) Merry Christmas and Happy new year!

https://youtu.be/TB_lAsofjyo

Back to drawing, this is one little life drawing on subway last week.
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