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Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Sophie_Draws » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:06 am

Hello! My name is Sophie, I was nervous about joining because I’m not very good at all but I'm hoping that I will be able to improve. I’m really serious about getting better so any advice is definitely welcome! I will update as much as possible. So, here we go.

Here are a mixture of some terrible studies and random drawings
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby sachsapne » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:24 am

Love those sketchbook pages *__* Looking forward for more
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Zakknart » Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:22 am

Hey Sophie, welcome o/
You're really practing a lot, keep on that.

Hey, just a suggestion, put the link of your Sketchbook on your signature, so when you comment on another one else sketchbook, they will find yours =)
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Sophie_Draws » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:47 am

Sachsapne – Thank you!
Zakknart – Thanks, I’m doing my best. I have just done that, thanks for pointing that out.

Just a few things. Any advice is welcome, I’m trying to work around a job so figuring out what is most important to focus on and making the most of my time is proving to be harder than I thought.
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Sophie_Draws » Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:39 pm

Here are some things from the last couple of days; I won’t post it all because it’s pretty embarrassing. I’ve been looking back at Loomis again and I think that it is probably best to start going back to the basics, since I’m feeling a tad overwhelmed with how much there is to learn. I need to start challenging myself a lot more and really focusing. I’m looking forward to looking back at this when I have improved haha.

Can anyone recommend any books/resources for learning perspective etc.?
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby krad-eelav » Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:50 pm

Welcome, welcome! We're glad to have you here. : )

Regarding your question about perspective, I've heard a ton of great things about 'Vanishing Point: Perspective for Comics from the Ground Up'. I believe even Sean Murphy (he's a fantastic sequential artist) recc'd it once? Don't quote me on that.

As for your works, you have a great sense of modeling things! Your pencil(?) sketches in particular have a very subtle and excellent handling that your digital works don't quiiiiiite have yet. I would probably recommend you to do some old master copies/studies to see how they work out things. Also, I wouldn't neglect backgrounds completely, as you do tend to focus more on figures so far. Maybe do some landscapes too?

You're off to a great start, so have fun improving even more. : )
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Sophie_Draws » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:09 pm

krad-eelav – Thank you for the recommendation, I’m going to order some books tomorrow :) I’m definitely going to start looking more at landscapes and working on better studies and applying them.

I’m going to challenge myself to do daily updates so I will just post this study from today. I’m going to start looking at landscapes, composition and basic perspective this coming week and attempt to use it in future drawings because I have been avoiding it which is pretty stupid. If anybody has any advice for the best things to focus on that would be great :) Thanks for stopping by.
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Luna » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:20 pm

Very nice color of this lady! I can see you did the shape of her face are carefully enough! The rest of them are quite draft but still on the right angle, and that's good!
keep going! Looking forward to see more of yours! ^_^ xx
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Sophie_Draws » Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:52 am

Luna – Thank you! I know what you mean, I really struggle with actually finishing stuff. I need to sort that.

This is really embarrassing. Some quick landscapes studies and a couple from imagination. These are just to get into the swing of things. My brush work is so shocking but I guess it will get better with practice.
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Sophie_Draws » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:42 pm

Quick update! Just some more bad things.
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby sachsapne » Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:19 pm

your problem in landscapes isn't color D: its rendering(iguess). Doing some long studies figuring out how foliage works might help. Keep posting
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby forrestimel » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:52 am

Hi Sophie, great work so far :)

So you were asking about perspective. Landscapes are nice and might help a bit but if you reeeaaaally want to work at perspective try to sketch buildings. For books on it I've heard that Scott Robertson's How to Draw book is a fantastic resource for perspective.

If you want a good free resource though then I really recommend following the youtube videos and assignments that were given for this class done on the Crimson Dagger forums >>here<<.

It's super helpful and is a great way to quickly learn about perspective and start using it more accurately in your own images :) The only other thing I have to critique is that you mentioned having to work around a job so you're trying to find the best way to manage your studying time. If you really want to make your studies work and see improvement in your art quickly then you have to apply your studies. I see that you're doing that here and there with some of your images but try to do it as much as possible. Taking notes of your studies could really help with this, even if it sounds awful just give it a shot sometime. But try to pursue the idea of never being unsure of how to draw something. If you're unsure then study it and apply it over and over again until you are certain of how to draw it. It's going to take a long ass time and require a lot of studying but you're definitely on the right track so far.

Hope I could help and that those links I gave you help you out :) Keep posting!
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Sophie_Draws » Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:08 am

Sachsapne – Thank you for the crit. I have done some this morning :) Not as long spent on them as I would have liked, but it has still helped I think.

Forrestimel – Thank you so much! I have ordered that book and I will check out Crimson Daggers more as well. Thanks for the advice; I’m going to apply as much as I can. I think taking will help as that will keep me thinking instead of mindlessly painting.

As, mentioned I’m trying to focus on certain things now. So here are some digital studies and one from imagination, a few pencil things as well. It probably doesn’t look like it but I think it has helped.
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Vielmond » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:28 am

Your latest figures are so elegant!

Regarding your landscapes, what exactly are you trying to achieve with them? Landscapes can be used to study varied subjects. They're one of my favourite ways to study colors. In this kind of study you don't actually need to worry about rendering stuff, you either do thumbnails or big images with broad brushstrokes. The point here is to get the right colors by eye, with no color picking from the original. Aim for 30 min studies.

But the trick is to keep questioning everything: Why do these mountains look blue? Why isn't this shadow merely green + black? Question everything, try to figure out how the world works. Pay attention to how a color relates to another, how placed side by side they look like different colors. Then you'll be able to create, not only reproduce.

As it was pointed before, your perspective looks a bit off in these studies. A quick tip is to start from the ground. Be aware of the horizon line, and bear in mind that the farther something is, "flatter" it'll look:

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Knowing where the ground should be, then proceed to shape the terrain. Work on your mountains, hills and valleys, but never forget the underlying perspective. If you feel uncomfortable with perspective basics, do some cubes on the side. They're fun!

To speed up your organic rendering studies, focus. Do separate studies of foliage, rocks, moss, water, and put everything you've learnt together later.

Lastly, remember to switch between studies and things from imagination. As forrestimel mentioned, remember to apply what you're learning. (:
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Zhene » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:32 am

Hello! Just as everyone has said. And you know it as well perspective might be the key to all your issues of dissatisfaction for now. Try and think of things as solid forms in perspective too. So perhaps should concentrate on perspective for the time being? You are working so much for having a job!! So much effort ^^. Thank you for commenting in my Sketchbook :D
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Sophie_Draws » Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:08 am

Vielmond – Thank you for such a detailed crit. I’m going to try to start doing what you said about studying everything separately tomorrow and see how that helps. :) You’ve given me plenty of ideas of different things to try over the coming days.

Zhene – Thank you! I’m going to start studying perspective as soon as I can!

I’ve ordered Scott Robertson’s How to Draw and Vanishing Point, I’m really hoping at least one of them will get here tomorrow so I can spend a bit of the weekend really getting to grips with it as I’m clearly very uncomfortable with perspective. Until then I’m going to focus on learning to depict colour and material better as I’ve been advised.

I apologise for the bad update today, I haven’t had a lot of time this morning before work, but I should hopefully have a lot of time on Saturday. I’ve done some landscapes where I’m trying to look at colour and not rendering, I’m trying to get better at picking up the subtle colours and actually trying to think about why things look how they do. I’m reading Colour and Light a bit as well. I may start working through it a bit at the weekend. Everything is terrible but this is a sloow process but I’m excited to start trying out all of the advice I’ve been given. Enough rambling.
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Sophie_Draws » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:07 am

Attempting to apply studies. Emphasis on attempting. It’s unfinished but I have no more time until I get home tonight. I’m being really boring with the pictures though, it’s the same as the one above haha. Is it best to keep it simple when applying the studies or should a try a more ambitious picture to work on as I go?
I’m just trying to depict forms and materials, I’m learning it is way harder than it looks. Hopefully the books will arrive today so get started on perspective.
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Sophie_Draws » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:35 pm

I’ll just post these few bits from today because the rest is definitely not worth showing. Still trying work on imagination stuff and on applying studies. It’s not good but I’m reminding myself that I will improve if I keep going. Thank you for looking :)
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Sophie_Draws » Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:08 pm

Today was one of those one step forward two steps back kind of days. I’m going to start looking at basic perspective for the rest of the night.
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Aliciane » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:32 am

Hey nice sketchbook, you're quite productive, keep the good work ! I've just received my copy of "How to draw" from Scott Robertson, so I can confirm that this is an excellent purchase, the book is extremely precise, rigorous, complete and well-explained, I already love it :)

If I may suggest you a thing or two, that would be to use more opaque brushes when you want to control your colours and learn about them. Keep the transparent brushes for the rendering, not the preliminary steps. Also, even though in the end brushes don't matter a lot, I'd recommend you to use a square brush instead of a round one when working on environments. I just feel square brushes are more "organic" and create more interesting and natural shapes than round ones, which is great for leaves, rocks, water, and a lot of things you'd find in landscapes.
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Sophie_Draws » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:29 am

Aliciane – Thank you! I hadn’t even thought about either of those things! I think sometimes you get a bit stuck and stop thinking about different techniques. I will start trying some landscapes using square brushes and see how that helps :) It’s great to hear the book is helpful! I’m still eagerly awaiting my copy to arrive!

Here a few studies from this morning, I found a couple pages of perspective stuff in another book I have and used that to practise a bit this morning. Nothing really worked this morning, everything from imagination tuned out terrible so I will spare your eyes haha. I have to go to work now, so will try and carry on later :)
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby jackajackalope » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:59 am

Your pencil work is really nice! The lines are so clean :0
I feel like color is something you could improve on though. Saturation seems about the same for most colors, and I think it'd help a lot if you played around with the shadows. Think about the light source and how that affects whether the shadows will be warm or cool. This site explains it pretty well: http://www.itchy-animation.co.uk/tutorials/light03.htm
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Sophie_Draws » Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:37 pm

Jackajackalope – Thank you for the link! I’ve struggled with colour for so long, I think it is time I start to tackle it.

How to Draw finally arrived! My mind is blown; there is so much to learn! Some studies trying to get to grips with colour, I may try a still life tomorrow. I need to drastically improve my understanding of colour.
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Luna » Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:45 pm

Wow~~~ wonderful perspective sketches!!! and very nice color study! keep it up! I am very glad I see you arrange the color of your image! It helps me out as well! Thank you!!!!!! xx
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Sophie_Draws » Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:01 am

Luna – Thank you! Perspective is so hard! I am trying to think more about my colour choices.

More hours at work than I would have liked the past few days. I thought it would be belter to focus on drawing in the time I had than spending it resizing everything to post. Just a tiny update, here are just a few of many pages documenting my terrible struggle with mirroring planes. I think I’m just being a bit stupid and it should click eventually.
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby sachsapne » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:36 am

the application of perspective is equally important. I mean draw a thumb on PS and try to technically reconstruct it with appropriate perspective. Its the best i know of. longer studies are important too (quite ironic towards me though :p)
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby HEATS » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:23 am

Hi Sophie! You're working really hard and that's great to see!
You seem to be having problems with anatomy, the nose in particular, so try drawing some portraits! :)
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Sophie_Draws » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:06 am

Sachsapne – I hadn’t thought of trying that so thank you for the idea, I will give it a go in the coming days :)
HEATS – Thank you for the advice, I will try and look more at anatomy this week as well, I’ve been quite lazy with it lately.

Just a quick still life, last week didn’t go to well in terms of drawing so I’m determined to get back on it this week. I’m going to look at the things mentioned above as well as a lot more drawing from imagination and applying what I learn.
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Aliciane » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:57 pm

Your perspective sketches look great :) my only advice would be to take your time. Each new page of the book adds a new layer of complexity and requires you to have had fully understood the previous concepts, otherwise the advanced constructions might seem really, really complicated. You should be able to remember each technique from memory without even having to think about "hem, what point did I need to construct ?".
Well, that's the theory, practically I'm far away from knowing it by heard too right now ^^
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Re: Sophie attempts to draw!

Postby Sophie_Draws » Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:03 am

Aliciane – thank you :) I have just realised that as I rushed ahead and failed miserably attempting mirroring rotated, tiled planes! Time to slow down and think.

I’ve been too lazy in regards to keeping this updated which is silly because I’ve received some great advice since posting here. So, I am back to regular updates because I need all the help I can get. Not a very good update but I am trying perspective studies in Photoshop because I’ve seen it on other sketchbooks and it seems to help :)
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